Hi my name is Jordi Ferrer and I am really excited for making my first post in this wonderful blog.
I would like to talk you about our economical crisis in Spain:
I would like to talk you about our economical crisis in Spain:
- What are the solutions for this global problem?
- Do you think Zapatero should leave the Spanish government?
I've got this feeling that our economical situation is worse than what ZP says to the media. I don't know why, maybe I'm a little too sceptical, but I don't believe a word this man says. However, don't think he's the only one. Nooo, they are all the same. I don't trust any of the politicians I know. If you think the worst, you won't be far wrong.
ReplyDeleteBut it's logical that we are in such a desperate situation. What did the politicians we had before (who are now criticizing Zetapé) think? Did they have a "plan B", just in case? No, they didn't! So why do we complain? We have nothing to reproach them for. WE, as Spain has a democracy (and we are the people who choose the party that has to govern), should have said that our economy wasn't stable at all. It was just a matter of time for a crisis to come. It's capitalism: after a period of prosperity THERE IS A CRISIS. You don't know when it's going to happen, but it's definitely going to happen!! Duh!! However, they prefer to look the other way. Well, someone has to get the blame, and it has been YOU, Jose Luis. We know it's not your fault, but who else is there, forced to smile and turn the other cheek like a good christian?
Look at Germany. They are growing, and we haven't bottomed out. That's because they have organised their economy. That's because they haven't focused just on one single sector, like we stupidly have.
Let me add that "economy" as a subject is not our only problem that comes from having a country which is only worried about construction and tourism. Our beautiful coasts are teeming with houses (and red Germans, but this is not the point), the banks own a lot of buildings and they don't have a clue of what they are going to do with them, there are millions of people without a job, prices are rising, and no one can afford to buy a proper building...
So, have you learnt anything? Can't you guess what is our next move? Bingo! We are going to wait as much time as it is necessary, and we will continue having this chaotic country. Are we capable of making the same mistake twice? I think we are. Nevertheless, don't worry too much. You just have to use the Spanish strategy: wait for the next crisis, and see what happens!
Be happy, as you are only one and human idiocy is formed by millions.
In my opinion the improvement on spanish economy doesn't depend on the change of goverment but is evident that Zapatero's governemt is not giving nothing positive to our country but also every day the reduction of problems is increasing but its not effective for the country.
ReplyDeleteHowever I think the great change will come with a change on governemnt I think Spain needs a change on political issues and ideologys to try new trades and new objectives.
Its not also positive for Spain that the opposition spends all day crtisizing Zapatero's government because between everyone we need to try and revive our country bringing it to the european elite again.
Enric B
The economists weren't able to anticipate to mthe actual crisis, however if we look how things were done in the past it's quite obvious that this would happen in spain. The fact that here buildings were being constructed even after crossing the top line, I mean nowardays we could not occupy all the homes in the country, so builders bankrupt, this leads to economical problems in banks that won't lend money soy business activity is much more limited, unemploiment grows and people spend less. It's like a cycle that is frankly very difficult to get out of the crisis. Logically the are lots of other reasons why we have this economical crisis that came because of globalisation from america.
ReplyDeleteI think the first thing the goverment should do and all the politicians is do self-criticism and after that work toghether for the good of the country. Nontheless, even though the situation is (without exaggerating) desperate it is very difficult, you just have to listen to them everyday criticizing each other.
In conclusion, knowing the king of people that work in spain it's difficult to think of a better future. In the past the spanish goverment devalued the currency to be more competitive and get out of the crisis. Now with the euro this is impossible so we don't know how will end
LLUIS CANADELL
This is a very delicate point, mainly because economical crisis are material that can't be felt, therefore, they are abstract and very difficult to deal with, so we can't consider that all the fault, belongs to ZP, in my opinion, it belongs to all of us. Adam Smith once said; The human is selfish by nature, well, if we examine this statement, we see that everybody is selfish, so, if everybody is selfish, everybody wants profit and money, and if everybody wants profit and money, there is no money for everyone, and finally we end on the same point where we started, with a massive economic crisis that can't be controlled, and that will lead to future wars(revolutions...).
ReplyDeleteSpain will not come out of the crisis in years, that's nearly obvious, why? Because spain hasn't got a good economical system to sustain all the population. Germany has already lifted off the ground, Why? Because they work a lot, they earn a relatively normal salary for their working hours, and then they spend a lot of money. If we want to get out of the crisis and "evolve", we have to adopt their economical model.
If we look this from a Philosophical point of view, we see that the people work to get money to pay,(Live to work), whereas a few years before, they worked to live, we can see that not only our financial and economical level has changed, but our social and philosophical one has.
So, should we continue in the selfish capitalism, or change to a different and more moral system such as Anarchism, or even Communism?
"The privet property, is not where the problem is, It is the problem"
Mikhail Bakunin.
As Suri said this is a very delicate point but I'll be very straight foward:
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion I think that the solution for this economic crisis, is to do a change of government. Zapatero has introduced new plans and ideas to solve the economic crisis in Spain, but at the moment they are not very effective, because for example the global unemployment in Spain hasn't decreased.
So I think a new government, for example a candidate could be Rajoy, he can bring for the country new economical ideas and new plans to fight against the crisis. This that I've just said doesn't mean that I'm in favour of Rajoy and that he is the best candidate for managing the government of Spain, but in economic material he could apport new ideas and new plans to solucionate this crisis.
In addition, other countries of Europe, have comed over this economical crisis. For example Germany has aplied correct economical plans and they've comed over the crisis. For example one option for getting rid of this crisis would be copying the German economical plan.
In conclusion I think that ecnomically talking a change in government could benefit Spain.
Didac Mullor
In my opinion the problem is not only the government. I actually agree with what Miguel said, the main problem is Spain has been focusing only in one sector for the past decades.
ReplyDeleteSpain is one of the countries with greatest index of empty houses due to no money to pay them. the problem is we are not going to change immediately as all the focus has gone into constructing. but what we can actually try is not blaming the government for everything. but like we say in spanish "alguien tenia que pagar el pato".
Most people say that one of the main solutions would be to copy the german strategies, and I agree it WOULD be effective if we didn't have an economy based in tourism and construction. I think we are not getting out of this crisis for at least two more years. SORRY!! but it is true.
To conclude I'd like to say that there isn't a determined plan just now to get out of this crisis immediately, but some day it will come.
Why are we blaming ZP for the crisis, when it was actually an American bank who started the problems. and i'd just like to remind people, we also went into the crisis later than Germany, which is not really an excuse but whatever. HAVE FAITH!!
Adrià Mirabet Bonet
Crisis, crisis and more crisis!!!
ReplyDeleteI am fed up of all this going on. It’s always the same news everywhere I look!!
I have recently have been documented in this issue and I have arrived to the conclusion that there is no way to get out of this recession we have fallen into.
I have just said this because:
First of all, it is said that if we want to get out of this crisis we are to spend money in buying products. Buying products when we haven’t got that much money?? Yes. We can see a clear example of Germany and how his managed to nearly get out of this recession.
In the second case it is difficult that Spain gets out of this crisis because a big part of the economy of the country is based in the construction of buildings and in this moment nearly all the constructions are closed because there isn’t money to continue and also not all people can afford paying high prices to get a home.
Going on now to the government, nowadays, I really don’t care what is happening. Should Zapatero leave the government?? I really don’t know perhaps after all it isn’t his fault that we are in crisis!!
Daniel Cosano
I agree with complety with you Adria, Spain in decades has dedicated only to the construction sector and know it is having an awful effect to our country.
ReplyDeleteWe need to apply a fiscal expansion politic to our country by lowing taxes and by inverting in public work.
The big problem we have is that the European Union is aplying an economical point of view helping Germany which has gone out of the crisis, not as us who will be a couple of years with this crisis that every day is leaving people without job
Jordi Ferrer